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Severe flu season predicted, vaccine may be ineffective: do you get flu shots?

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Experts say the Australian flu season was severe and vaccines were only 10% effective. What's your view on annual flu shots - to prick or not to prick?
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Results in this view: Always/usually 18% - Sometimes 18% - Lazy/don't Need 27% - N-dangerous 36%
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By Wallace Freeman I've usually received shots and can't say I've had a bad experience yet but I understand people who are reluctant to get shots and believe it their right as humans and parents to decide for themselves and their wards. Being a baby boomer who received all those polio vaccinations and having read Dr. Mary's Monkey, I can't help but wonder if my bad reaction is yet to come. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhB0aFm6MP4
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By William Dykeman good for you evryone should be required to get shots even me
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By Daniel Doyle no we shouldn't be forced to get shot
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By William Dykeman Vaccinations are one of the of most incredible aspects of modern medicine. They can make previously lethal diseases disappear from society and save countless lives. There is, however, a chance that the vaccines work a little too well and our collective memory is too short to remember the devastating effects some of these diseases caused just a few short decades ago. Recently, for reasons that are not based on science or logic, many parents have outspokenly rejected vaccinating their children. Unfortunately, this has caused a reemergence of easily managed diseases. The Council on Foreign Relations has released an interactive map detailing the catastrophic outcome of these poor choices.

The interactive map gives a gut-wrenching tour of global outbreaks of measles, mumps, rubella, polio, and whooping cough from 2008-2014. These diseases -- all of which are easily prevented by vaccines -- can have dire consequences. The CDC estimates that 164,000 people around the world will die from measles each year, and it is experiencing quite a resurgence in the UK. The United States has recently seen a drastic increase in whooping cough, which causes around 195,000 deaths per year. The majority of these deaths occur in impoverished regions with very little access to vaccines. In the case of developed areas like the US or UK, they shouldn’t be happening at all.
http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/one-map-sums-damage-caused-anti-vaccination-movement/
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By Wallace Freeman There is a choice to be made between the liberty of the individual and the safety of the collective. "Societies exist under three forms sufficiently distinguishable. 1. Without government, as among our Indians. 2. Under governments wherein the will of every one has a just influence, as is the case in England in a slight degree, and in our states in a great one. 3. Under governments of force: as is the case in all other monarchies and in most of the other republics. To have an idea of the curse of existence under these last, they must be seen. It is a government of wolves over sheep. It is a problem, not clear in my mind, that the 1st. condition is not the best. But I believe it to be inconsistent with any great degree of population. The second state has a great deal of good in it. The mass of mankind under that enjoys a precious degree of liberty and happiness. It has it's evils too: the principal of which is the turbulence to which it is subject. But weigh this against the oppressions of monarchy, and it becomes nothing. Malo periculosam, libertatem quam quietam servitutem. Even this evil is productive of good. It prevents the degeneracy of government, and nourishes a general attention to the public affairs. I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical." - Jefferson to James Madison, January 30, 1787
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By William Dykeman freedom is just another world for nothing left to lose
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By William Dykeman who is the wolf who is the sheep?
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By William Dykeman Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate.”

― Bertrand Russell
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