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Trump: holding active shooter drills in schools 'a very negative thing'. Agree?

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Trump said exposing young lids to idea of a shooter trying to kill them is too traumatizing, but many say it's a necessary evil given today's reality. Your view"
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Results in this view: Y-traumatizing 0% - Convince Me 29% - N-necessary Evil 71%
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By William Dykeman we never had to do that, what has this nation come too? would it not be a signal it is time to do something about guns?
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By Charlie Fisk We've always done it, did you not attend public schools?
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By William Dykeman shooter drills? well sonny back in the 1970s 1970s we did not do duck and cover, and we did not do drills for shooters, THERE WERE NO f*&^king shooters we might have all been in the bathroom smoking pot, ocassionally some ass brought a hunting knife in to school and boy were they in trouble, but no one got stabbed no one got shot, occasionally there might be a fist fight, once in a while the football team would grab us nerds and dunk our heads in the toilet but no one came to school and shot the place up, it never happened never, the first school shooting i remember was 1979 a 16 year old girl stayed home from school she lived across from an elementary school she grabbed her dads hunting rifle 2 adults died and eight kids were injured and that when it all started and by then i had graduated from high school (1977) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Don%27t_Like_Mondays boom town rats immortalized the incident in song
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By Mark Tracey No, when the nation didn’t have school shootings it still had gun . Something else deeper and more sinister the infrected our nation.
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By William Dykeman something has changed but let us remember that the homicide rate now is about half what it was back then

The uptick in murders in 20164 comes on the heels of a double-digit percentage increase in 2015 that was the largest jump in a quarter-century. That said, the nation’s overall murder rate in 2016 was 5.3 per 100,000 people, 48 percent below its peak, in 1980.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-u-s-murder-rate-is-up-but-still-far-below-its-1980-peak/
The number of murders rose 8.6 percent nationwide in 2016, according to the FBI’s newest round of crime statistics, released Monday. There were an estimated 17,250 murders1 last year, up from 15,883 in 2015. The murder rate also rose for a second straight year, but it’s still roughly where it was in 2008, far below the levels of the 1980s and early 1990s. Meanwhile, the share of murders committed with a firearm rose to a record high.2
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By William Dykeman the murder rate is way down from what it was 40 years ago
what is new is the number of murders committed with fire arms
its at all time high
hence the emphasis on guns
get rid of the guns you get rid of about 80% of all violent crimes
The number of murders rose 8.6 percent nationwide in 2016, according to the FBI’s newest round of crime statistics, released Monday. There were an estimated 17,250 murders1 last year, up from 15,883 in 2015. The murder rate also rose for a second straight year, but it’s still roughly where it was in 2008, far below the levels of the 1980s and early 1990s. Meanwhile, the share of murders committed with a firearm rose to a record high.2 https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-u-s-murder-rate-is-up-but-still-far-below-its-1980-peak/
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By Mark Tracey Murder is a crime of passion, envy, greed, jealousy, getting ride of guns will not change peoples passions they will find another way.
What has changed is the young find less meaning and purpose to life and drift into nihilism.
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By William Dykeman well why has the homicide rate dropped so in the uk and canada?
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By Mark Tracey How are the statistics gathered? Are arresrs or convictions counted, what about death from self defense? What about counting a death as murder or manslauhter? Too many inconsistencies and people willing to exploit those inconsistencies to support their position..

https://mises.org/blog/gun-control-fails-what-happened-england-ireland-and-canada
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By William Dykeman According to Lawrence Sherman, a criminologist at the University of Cambridge, such tactics have now worked in places as different as Sweden and Trinidad and Tobago. In Chicago, where crime has been slower to fall than elsewhere, local politicians this year thanked hotspot methods for the lowest murder rate in half a century. Technology has improved the effectiveness of detective work too. The advent of DNA testing, mobile-phone location and surveillance cameras—which have spread rapidly, especially in Britain—have all increased the risk of getting caught. https://www.economist.com/news/briefing/21582041-rich-world-seeing-less-and-less-crime-even-face-high-unemployment-and-economic