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Boy Scouts to allow gay kids, ban gay adults. Is that OK?

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Discussion started by Andy Goldberg:
The Boy Scouts have proposed allowing gay youths to join, while keeping a ban on gay adults. What do you think?
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By Billy Sands this whole issue confuses me, i think adults have a right to be gay and unmolested, but kids? why are we sexualizing kids, why cant they just be kids? and why do conservative christians have to be invaded by leftist militants? look left wing groups can start ther iown boy scouts, dont chrisitans have a right to some refuge from this degenerate over suxualized world? why must you push it everywhere?
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By Steve Orris Totally agree. Most kids in scouts are young enough they shouldn't "feel" anything one way or the other yet anyway. The older ones will. And at that point they need to be honest and decide if they are willing to live by the scout rules; if not, get out.
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By Billy Sands i'm not anti gay this is just taking it too far, conservative people need to have some refuge from modern culture
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By Stephen Moyer you should take that thought and apply it to us conservatives having the c r a p that the Obama administration has forced down our throats the last 6 years
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By Billy Sands that you deserve, i' a socialist and its what you have forced the poor to put up with, and the price you will pay in retribution, this isnt your country any more okay? i dont want to round you up or kill you, not unless its absolutely necessarry, but when we make the rules you wil live by them, just like you forced us to suffer under yours, so get used to it..
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By Stephen Moyer that is where you are WRONG we are taking our country back from the 6 years of tyranny brought on us by this administration
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By Billy Sands watch what happens in the next few years we are on the verge of civil war and you simply will not like the result
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By Stephen Moyer LOL who has the most guns Get over yourself
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By Billy Sands http://www.poetryarchive.org/poem/america
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By Billy Sands America
BY ALLEN GINSBERG
America I’ve given you all and now I’m nothing.
America two dollars and twentyseven cents January 17, 1956.
I can’t stand my own mind.
America when will we end the human war?
Go f^&ck yourself with your atom bomb.
I don’t feel good don’t bother me.
I won’t write my poem till I’m in my right mind.
America when will you be angelic?
When will you take off your clothes?
When will you look at yourself through the grave?
When will you be worthy of your million Trotskyites?
America why are your libraries full of tears?
America when will you send your eggs to India?
I’m sick of your insane demands.
When can I go into the supermarket and buy what I need with my good looks?
America after all it is you and I who are perfect not the next world.
Your machinery is too much for me.
You made me want to be a saint.
There must be some other way to settle this argument.
Burroughs is in Tangiers I don’t think he’ll come back it’s sinister.
Are you being sinister or is this some form of practical joke?
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By Billy Sands who has guns? a few fat suburban white guys some uneducated red necks in a trailer park? dont make me laugh..what will you do when the marxist hordes come across the southern border armed by the ghost of hugo chavez and red china? hm? again when things really do brrak down you will see how owefully unprepared you are for the invasion of zombie north koreans , ya ya ya! they are coming to get you! lol paranoid fool
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By Billy Sands America how can I write a holy litany in your silly mood?
I will continue like Henry Ford my strophes are as individual as his automobiles more so they’re all different sexes.
America I will sell you strophes $2500 apiece $500 down on your old strophe
America free Tom Mooney
America save the Spanish Loyalists
America Sacco & Vanzetti must not die
America I am the Scottsboro boys.
America when I was seven momma took me to Communist Cell meetings they sold us garbanzos a handful per ticket a ticket costs a nickel and the speeches were free everybody was angelic and sentimental about the workers it was all so sincere you have no idea what a good thing the party was in 1835 Scott Nearing was a grand old man a real mensch Mother Bloor the Silk-strikers’ Ewig-Weibliche made me cry I once saw the Yiddish orator Israel Amter plain. Everybody must have been a spy.
America you don’t really want to go to war.
America its them bad Russians.
Them Russians them Russians and them Chin&men. And them Russians.
The Russia wants to eat us alive. The Russia’s power mad. She wants to take our cars from out our garages.
Her wants to grab Chicago. Her needs a Red Reader’s Digest. Her wants our auto plants in Siberia. Him big bureaucracy running our fillingstations.
That no good. Ugh. Him make Indians learn read. Him need big black nUggers. Hah. Her make us all work sixteen hours a day. Help.
America this is quite serious.
America this is the impression I get from looking in the television set.
America is this correct?
I’d better get right down to the job.
It’s true I don’t want to join the Army or turn lathes in precision parts factories, I’m nearsighted and psychopathic anyway.
America I’m putting my queer shoulder to the wheel.

Berkeley, January 17, 1956
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By Billy Sands I’m trying to come to the point.
I refuse to give up my obsession.
America stop pushing I know what I’m doing.
America the plum blossoms are falling.
I haven’t read the newspapers for months, everyday somebody goes on trial for murder.
America I feel sentimental about the Wobblies.
America I used to be a communist when I was a kid I’m not sorry.
I smoke marijuana every chance I get.
I sit in my house for days on end and stare at the roses in the closet.
When I go to Chinatown I get drunk and never get l*id.
My mind is made up there’s going to be trouble.
You should have seen me reading Marx.
My psychoanalyst thinks I’m perfectly right.
I won’t say the Lord’s Prayer.
I have mystical visions and cosmic vibrations.
America I still haven’t told you what you did to Uncle Max after he came over from Russia.
I’m addressing you.
Are you going to let your emotional life be run by Time Magazine?
I’m obsessed by Time Magazine.
I read it every week.
Its cover stares at me every time I slink past the corner candystore.
I read it in the basement of the Berkeley Public Library.
It’s always telling me about responsibility. Businessmen are serious. Movie producers are serious. Everybody’s serious but me.
It occurs to me that I am America.
I am talking to myself again.

Asia is rising against me.
I haven’t got a chinam*n’s chance.
I’d better consider my national resources.
My national resources consist of two joints of marijuana millions of genitals an unpublishable private literature that jetplanes 1400 miles an hour and twentyfive-thousand mental institutions.
I say nothing about my prisons nor the millions of underprivileged who live in my flowerpots under the light of five hundred suns.
I have abolished the whuurehouses of France, Tangiers is the next to go.
My ambition is to be President despite the fact that I’m a Catholic.

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By Stephen Moyer the only point you have is at the precipice of your dome
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By Stephen Moyer you will never get the arms taken from law abiding citizens
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By Stephen Moyer to this I SAY SO WHAT
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By Stephen Moyer LOL the words of a loud mouthed jewish man carries no weight in my book
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