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Trump retreats on Afghanistan pledges: will extend, expand the war. Right plan?

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Despite promises and tweets saying the US must leave, Trump now says he sees things differently from the Oval Office, says US will stay open-ended. Agree?
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Results in this view: Y-need To Stay 21% - Convince Me 11% - N-need Exit Plan 11% - N-leave Now 58%
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I told the libertarians who were desperate enough to think he was their guy (small group) that he was not their guy.
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By Thomas Edward Stubbs The libertarians (Koch brothers) did not vote for Trump, they voted for Pence and Ryan.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Not talking about them.
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By Thomas Edward Stubbs But they are next in line and the Koch's planned it that way.. Trump is just the ticket they needed to get their foot in the door.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Sounds a bit far fetched.
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By Thomas Edward Stubbs Nancy MacLean's book "Democracy In Chains", covers the history of Charles Koch and James McGill Buchanan. This is vastly important information needed by people who voted for this nightmare (Trump Administration and the Koch Vandals in his Cabinet. It is excellent scholarship. The Koch oligarchy is an inch away from ruling this country. It is not far fetched it is actually provable Kirby through scholarship and evidence.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Or it is opinion by these authors. You can take factual info and twist it any way you want. BUT I don't know haven't read it. I will see if I can get a copy and make my own decisions.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Many argue George Soros oligarchy controlled us for 8 years under Obama. Some argue Wall Street controlled Obama, which has heavy evidence even true liberals agree.
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By Thomas Edward Stubbs There are stacks of papers in Buchanan's office that links him and his ideology to his friend Charles Koch. It is an outstanding book. Now we face the Vandals as they all were placed in the senate and house by the efforts of the Koch's.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Like I said I will try and check it out to see if it is a jewel or a steaming pile of...
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Real libertarians would NOT vote for Pence/Ryan either.
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By Thomas Edward Stubbs The Koch brand of Libertarian to be specific though I'm not a fan of the sociopathic nature of Ayn Rand either.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris If they support Pence/Ryan, then they are not libertarians at all.
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By Thomas Edward Stubbs They'll vote for anyone who will put them into power.
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By William Dykeman feel the bern
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Not real libertarians. Real libertarians do not want power.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Rather not. I don't like getting Berned.
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By William Dykeman prepare for the revolution libertarian your politics of greed and racist privilege are about to come to an end, we will bury you
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Uhm, you are confused. Libertarians are for everyone to have liberty and freedom, as well as everyone to prosper, AND ARE NOT racist in the least. We are for equal rights for ALL!!!! We are for the Non-aggression principle about as peaceful as you can get.
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By William Dykeman yeah but you oppose the welfare state, i'm not saying we totally collectivize our economy or stuff so dont lay that lame association fallacy on me, what i am saying is share the wealth man.. help the widows and orphans , and a little agression now and then is okay if the righteous are using it

Psalm 146:9
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9 The LORD watches over the foreigner and sustains the fatherless and the widow, but he frustrates the ways of the wicked.

"I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" is one of statements attributed to Jesus according to Gospel of Matthew. According to the most common Christian interpretation, the "sword" is a metaphor for an ideological conflict brought by Jesus.
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By William Dykeman "I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" is one of statements attributed to Jesus according to Gospel of Matthew. According to the most common Christian interpretation, the "sword" is a metaphor for an ideological conflict brought by Jesus.
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By William Dykeman "I came not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" is one of statements attributed to Jesus according to Gospel of Matthew. According to the most common Christian interpretation, the "sword" is a metaphor for an ideological conflict brought by Jesus.
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By William Dykeman Matthew 10:34 ►
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"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

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"Don't imagine that I came to bring peace to the earth! I came not to bring peace, but a sword.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Yes I oppose a welfare state where a government takes from one, against his will to give to another. I believe in 100% consent. The way of peace.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Aggression is never OK, except in self defense. IF you use it to force peaceful men to do things against their will, then you are not righteous.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris William Dykeman posted:
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John answered, "Anyone who has two shirts should share with the one who has none, and anyone who has food should do the same."

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John replied, "If you have two shirts, give one to the poor. If you have food, share it with those who are hungry."

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And he answered them, “Whoever has two tunics is to share with him who has none, and whoever has food is to do likewise.”
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I answer: This is a message for private charity, NOT government forcing you to care for others. QUIT TWISTING SCRIPTURE!!!
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