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VP Pence: abortions in the US could become illegal 'in our time.' Agree?

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Discussion started by Ron Petreanu:
Pence told supporters that great progress was being made under Trump to limit access and legal abortions could end in our time. Will that happen?
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Results in this view: Y-good News 26% - Y-sad To Hear 9% - Convince Me 0% - N-not Nationally 65%
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By Chris Schene Look how many evil slime support abortion. They should all be executed.
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By William Dykeman i do i do.. and then and then we take the fetus and make meat loaf! mu ha ha ha. . guess what a fetus is not a child.. it isnt even good eating
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By Chris Schene A reflection of your low character and those who share your views.
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By Vincent D'Emidio Look at who shares YOUR views...country bumpkins, yokels, RACISTS, bible-bangers (with no brains), the KKK, Jerry Fallwell...all lowlifes!
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By Chris Schene Vincent, you couldn't shine my shoes when it comes to IQ. I have a genius IQ (that why I bother you: you are slow witted), I have thee patents, multiple published engineering magazine articles, conference presentations, multiple inventions: I guarantee you that you use at least some of my engineering every single week.
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By William Dykeman this is why we never should have given catholics the vote
you people are savages
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By Vincent D'Emidio Hey, congratulations! But tell me...what does this have to do with the subject at hand?
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By Chris Schene You did not address the subject at hand. Instead, you attempted to impugn my character by implying that people who share my belief are stupid and by implication, I am stupid.

Vincent, you must be used to dealing with stupid people if those tactics works. If you want to debate the subject then do so, but don't try these backhanded techniques on me and then falsely state that you are debating.
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By Vincent D'Emidio Wow! I must've "hit a nerve", huh? My post was not a "debate" -- it was just an observation. In my experiences, every White Racist that I have ever known -- EVERY ONE OF THEM -- voted Republican, no exceptions -- and for the very same reasons.
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By Chris Schene It's confirmation bias, Vince.

You always look for the evidence that confirms what you already believe. I am not affected by the CB disease: as an engineer, my livelihood depends on dealing objectively with facts. If it doesn't work, I don't get paid.

Similarly, most Blacks I know who are anti-cop bigots are Democrat losers. Most Blacks I know did not have a father in the home and they were Democrats too.
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By Grover Syck From your post, you have about a 50 IQ.
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By Grover Syck A reasonable assessment of your intelligence.
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By Mark Tracey Is a fetus human,meaning a complete and unique compliment of human chromosomes, unlike sperm or an unfertilized egg, and is it alive and growing?
If so, you are a cannibal.
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By William Dykeman the scientific qualifier is brain activity
The early signs of a brain have begun to form. Even though the fetus is now developing areas that will become specific sections of the brain, not until the end of week 5 and into week 6 (usually around forty to forty-three days) does the first electrical brain activity begin to occur.Jun 19, 2005
as long as this thing inhabits the mothers body it is a parasite and mom has a right to get rid of the little brat
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By Mark Tracey By your standard, the uncountable numbers of single cell and multi cell creatures are not alive. Regardless, they, as a fetus, is able to communicate with other parts of its structure via hormonal and electrical impulses. You’re scientific qualifier is just a rationalization to justify your view.
Parasite,
“-noun
an organism that lives on or in an organism of another species, known as the host, from the body of which it obtains nutriment.”
The fetus is not another species, nor has it taken up residence in the womb by accident or by its own action, but rather by specific intentional actions by its parents.
So again, the question you have so far been unable to answer, “Is a fetus human,meaning a complete and unique compliment of human chromosomes, unlike sperm or an unfertilized egg, and is it alive and growing? ”
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By William Dykeman they are alive they are just not human
tonight i had pasta and meat balls
angus beef
at one time the cow was alive
so one kiled it for me and i ate it
noting personal i dont hate cows
i just like to kill them and eat them
eating them alive is gross
a thing can be alive just not human
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By Mark Tracey What does eating beef have to do with killing humans?
If you answered my question honestly, you would find yourself in a moral dilemma, you want abortion to continue but you don’t want to kill a human. What you don’t want to face is that your ok with killing certain humans .

How do you determine what is human and what is not?
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By Chris Schene Perfectly consistent Biblically to execute murderers while murder is still wrong.
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By William Dykeman oh so now our all old testement
you just commited an acto of terrorism threatening people who get abortions
i have filed a report
you have made a tangible threat
homeland security and the justice dpeartment have been informed
oh and also naral
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By William Dykeman we never should have given you catholics the vote
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By William Dykeman but killing a fetus is not murder
for the record the only people that executed abortion people were the nazis
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By Mark Tracey Perhaps in the Old Testament.
I would rather teach personal responsiblity to sexually active people to take the steps necessary to prevent unwanted pregnancy rather then they use abortion as default birth control . Making abortion illegal will move many toward that position.
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By Kevin Basner OOMPA LOOMPA DOOPITY DOO, I'VE GOT ANOTHER PUZZLE FOR YOU.

What do you get when you attack abortion?
Liberals defending Pro-Choice While You Commit Extortion
How many days shall we suffer under Trump?
Quite possibly the whole length of your penis enlarger pump!

I DON'T LIKE THE LOOK OF IT!

OOMPA LOOMPA DOOPITY DEE, IF YOU ARE WISE YOU'LL LISTEN TO ME!
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By Chris Schene They called me up and told you are some crazy person who is a known kook.
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By Chris Schene That is a false choice. I can decide to execute based on a behavior and still teach the personal responsibility you mentioned.

Execution of abortionists BUT teach them personal responsibility ahead of time so you don't have to execute them: Prevent the crime.
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By William Dykeman no you cant
try it
se you are a terrorist
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By Kevin Basner lol. Start with yourself, you evil assault weapon mass shooting supporter!
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By Chris Schene An AR-15 IS NOT an assault weapon. Assault weapons are illegal in civilian hands, are primarily for military uses and are able to fire in automatic mode where one pull of the trigger fires continuously or multiple shot bursts. The AR-15 is a semi-automatic where one round is fired on each trigger pull.

Many hunting rifles are more dangerous than the AR-15.
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By William Dykeman Military-style semi-automatic (MSSA) is a term in New Zealand firearms law. The category was introduced after the 1990 Aramoana massacre and is defined as any "self-loading" (i.e. semi-automatic) firearm, other than a pistol, with any of the following features:[1]

Folding or telescopic butt
Magazine that holds, or is detachable and has the appearance of holding more than 15 cartridges (for .22 rimfire)
Magazine that holds more than 7 cartridges, or is detachable and has the appearance of holding more than 10 cartridges (for other than a .22 rimfire)
Bayonet lug
Pistol grip as defined by regulation
Flash suppressor
The definition of an MSSA is in the Arms Act, which together with the Arms Regulations,[2] also specifies the controls over possession and use of MSSAs. The Act is administered by the New Zealand Police.[3]

Contents
1 Requirements to possess
2 2009 reinterpretation
3 2012 Amendments
4 External links
5 References
6 See also
Requirements to possess
Possession or use of any MSSA requires a firearms licence with either a "C" or "E" endorsement. The "E" endorsement allows MSSAs to be used with live ammunition; while the "C" endorsement is used by museum curators, collectors, film/TV/theatre armourers, etc. To be granted either endorsement, the applicant must demonstrate to Police good cause for possessing MSSAs and the application must be supported by 2 referees who are current endorsement holders, serving members of a firearms-related organisation, bona fide collectors or persons able to demonstrate a genuine long-term interest in firearms. The applicant must also demonstrate a higher standard of security for the storage of weapons than is required for ordinary firearms.
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By Chris Schene That is very interesting but why should we care about what New Zealand law is?

Actually, for self defense a shotgun firing buckshot is a pretty good self defense weapon and it has the added advantage that it is unlikely to penetrate a wall and accidentally hurt an innocent person. I used to have a rifle but decided that would be too dangerous in a neighborhood if used for self defense. I plan to get a a pump shotgun and load it with buckshot.

If I were to spend much time in rural areas, I would carry a pistol and for self defense a semi-auto or revolver
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By William Dykeman because it is a workable compromise to a ban
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By Mark Tracey You would be a hypocrite calling for their execution of those who support abortion, that’s what abortion is execution. The only difference is the reason and the age of the victim.
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By William Dykeman well there you go again trying to be the voice of reason in a room full of screaming children
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By Kevin Basner Screaming Children?! Oh please! God was a screaming child in the Old Testament!
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By William Dykeman well according to the gnostics yes,
kevin you are a screaming child
just because you might not be quite as bad as the right
doesnt make you the good guy
in many ways you are worse than the people you chastise
you are a hypocrite
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By Chris Schene William: I am SO wounded by your mean comments.

I won't converse with you if you keep being so mean.

Meanie.
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By Dan Anderson Chris - talking about murder, you seem to have no problem in murdering those who believe in having choice in the issue. Why is that?
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By Chris Schene We will change the laws so it is a crime punishable by death---problem solved.

Glad you asked.
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By Dan Anderson Chris - Why would you think it would merit a death penalty for such a medical procedure? It is not murder. If you really thought it was murder, you would have contacted as many of your congressmen and women to have them rewrite the law so it would be illegal. All I have seen you do is complain about it.
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By William Dykeman do you consider yourself a christian with that atittude? this isnt about children any cheap psychiatrist will tell you that, you dont give a sh&^ about kids or anyone else for that matter, it is about your desire to control other people
your a catholic are you not, did the catholic church teach you to think like that
my god you people are as bad as the muslims, never should have given you the vote
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By Chris Schene Listen dweeb, don't try to bait me with with that "do consider yourself...".

Only fools respond to that intellect light adhominum.

Rephrase your question without the adhominum and accusation and then maybe I will bless you with wisdom.
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By William Dykeman yes but you are a fool
and you did respond
lol
triggered
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By Chris Schene poor snowflake, William.
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By William Dykeman lol she is so much bigger
does she beat you?
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By William Dykeman i would clean the floor with your gay ass
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By Chris Schene William, you know not of what you speak. I gave up fighting because there are all sorts of downsides: lawsuits, medical bills, jail and I am too good at it and I don't want to hurt or kill people. I am a Bronx boy, lost count of my street fights at 10 and I have studied 5 styles of martial arts continuously since I was 16. I haven't had the slightest bit of competition in a fight since the age of 15.
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By William Dykeman you sir are nothing but a wrom
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By Grover Syck Do a little historical digging.
The catholic church supported abortion until early in the 20th century.
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By Chris Schene I don't believe you. Prove it.