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New Russian law sets fines, jail time for fake news, disrespecting state. Like?

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A new Russian law sets fines and up to 15 days in jail for posting fake news and disrespecting the state online. Good approach to a dangerous problem?
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Results in this view: Y-good Idea 20% - Y-fake News Only 20% - Convince Me 0% - N-free Speech 60%
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By William Dykeman the problem is you cant trust a corrupt government to enforce a law like this properly
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By Mark Tracey Then perhaps it is not such a good idea.
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By William Dykeman so you get an honest government to enforce the law, but no you are right it is a very very problematic law, its a good idea but it is too easily abused, i am going to give you this, you convinced me, but to be honest i always was on the fence but you have it right, prohibition was a good idea, alcohol is terribly harmful and prohibition cut alcohol use and disease and mayhem caused by drunks https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/16/opinion/actually-prohibition-was-a-success.html but was it a good idea? not really enfocement was not popular with a significant protion of the population

so yes often the law can cuase more hard than the crime sometimes
you win this i think
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By Mark Tracey In any system, if you put a few people in control of power and money, corruption occurs. Fighting that in our own government is the best thing we can all do for our future.
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By William Dykeman no not any system, not my people look at northern europe one of the reason we accept big government is that we trust each other and trust each other i dont know if thats because we are morally superiror or just too stupid to be dishonest, but if you look at corruption indexes you will see that nations with big government have honest governments <div class="cpi-node" data-embed="table"></div><script src="https://www.transparency.org/assets/scripts/cpi2018/embed.js"></script> you dont trust your government because you are the product of a very corrupt socierty i am not i am the product of insanity but i have liveind in honest cultures where peole trust each other