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Mind-reading, face ID, surveillance-do we need a global privacy bill of rights?

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Discussion started by Tok Staff:
As technology intrudes on privacy more, even our thoughts will soon be violated. Do humans need to agree on a global bill of privacy rights?
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Results in this view: Y-before 2 Late 13% - Have Rights Now 13% - Convince Me 25% - N-privacy Dead 50%
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By William Dykeman YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS
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By Don Baumgartner You have a point there, William !!!!!!
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By William Dykeman its complicated, its not that i dont think people should have rights but we need to accept they are arbitrary like the argument over health care being a right simply because it isnt in the costituion they say we ahve rights but how many black men had any rights when the cops gunned them donw? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4&t=30s
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By Kirby Liberty Harris The black men had rights, they were just ignored by evil men..
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By Kirby Liberty Harris A right is properly defined as something one is able to do absent from interference from anyone else or not taken from anyone else.
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By William Dykeman arbitrary definition your definition thats an opinion your opinion not a factual definition
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By William Dykeman de jure or defacto.. if they were ignored they did not exst, you dont get that, rights are made up they are in your head, like laws if laws are not enforced like pot laws in holland they really are not laws at all like the drinking age in quebec no one enforces it no one enforced the drinking age in holland even though it was onkly 16 de jure and de facto look that up
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By William Dykeman In law and government, de jure (/deɪ ˈdʒʊəri, di-/; Latin: de iure, lit. 'in law' Latin pronunciation: [deː juːre]) describes practices that are legally recognised, whether or not the practice exist in reality.[1] In contrast, de facto ("in fact" or "in practice") describes situations that exist in reality, even if not legally recognised.[2] The terms are often used to contrast different scenarios: for a colloquial example, "I know that, de jure, this is supposed to be a parking lot, but now that the flood has left four feet of water here, it's a de facto swimming pool".[3] To further explain, even if the signs around the flooded parking lot say "Parking Lot" (the signs effectively being the "law" determining what it is) it is "in fact" a swimming pool (with the water, the current practical circumstances, determining what it is).
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Wrong, if the law says you have a right to wiz in the street, and they stop you, then you still have that right, but they violated that right. That is why government gets sued in the US and loses all the time.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris No, that is the definition of inalienable rights.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Dejure has nothing to do with the government breaking its own laws and the rights it recognizes the people have. I am referring to recognized laws, rather they are assumed to exist by nature or given by the state.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I paraphrased the definition of natural law. But those are the terms. for what are called inalienable or natural rights.. That is not the definition of legal rights not considered natural or inalienable right.
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By William Dykeman no such thing, the only natural law is the law of the jungle
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By William Dykeman sure it does
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By William Dykeman youd wiz in the street?
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By William Dykeman no such thing
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Inalienable rights not being real is 100% your opinion. I would only wiz in the street, legal or not, IF I had no other choice, but I would do it around the corner.
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By Mark Tracey There are many in this world who would not even wish this type public conversation to take place, yet here we are, so there is still a right to express ones self, at least in the US. Those rights , as well as others, will continues as long as there are enough people who value those and other rights enough to fight for them.
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By William Dykeman right? or priviledege not everyone can so its a priviledge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9-R8T1SuG4&t=30s
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By Kirby Liberty Harris And you can argue against it all you want, but that is what our system, unadulterated is based on.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris That is not the definition of privilege. A privilege is something that you are not entitled to from being born human.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris An inalienable right is something you have the right to, that no one can morally take from you without due process and that you can't force others to give you.
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By William Dykeman being born a white male
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By William Dykeman is a chimera not a real thing
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By William Dykeman or born a white man
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By William Dykeman too bad we never practice what we preach when push comes to shov
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Nope being born human of any race or ethnicity. Not a real thing is your opinion. We need to practice what we preach, when its good. Not a thing mad up, again your opinion.
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By William Dykeman thats all made up
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Thats your misinformed opinion. True and factual as the day is long.
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By William Dykeman i speak truth to power
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By William Dykeman based on fact
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By Kirby Liberty Harris You are ALL wrong.
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By Don Baumgartner People having rights is why we should have congress a " Immigration Reform" bill so those who wish can have the life we have in USA !!!
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By William Dykeman "rights' are decided by the people in a democraticconcensus. they wernet given to us by god.. if they were wouldnt the bill of rights be in the bible?
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By Kirby Liberty Harris The principles of the Bill of Rights are in the bible.
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By William Dykeman they are not!!!
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By William Dykeman show me where
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By Kirby Liberty Harris God warns Adam and Eve that their actions have consequences, but still allows them to make a choice. Therefore, the Bible supports the idea that we have the freedom to say what we want to, but that what we say can have consequences.
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By William Dykeman and where is freewill in the bible and btw most things are determined by our dna and environment most is determined most of our conduct is not in our controll
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Freedom of choice and free will. The BOR were based on this concept. And the Bible shares the principle that God gave humans freedom of choice and conscious. I said the principles.
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By William Dykeman not relevant
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Just one example. Another is the right to arm oneself to protect themselves and others. The bible is full of this principle.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Totally relevant.
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By William Dykeman you keep a gun in your home you have five times higher rate of death it makes you less safe
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Yes way. Nope, my house is safer because of all our guns. Our kids know they are weapons not toys and won't touch them unless they are supposed to.
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By William Dykeman see crazy people dont know they are crazy, i'm not relgious kirby but i pray for people like you your basically a good guy and you really dont understand the danger you put your wife and kids in, you really dont,and that because of the propoganda youve swalowed.. spit it out dude
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Again, I don't understand what your opinion on crazy has to do with anything, but its you who need to spit out the poison propaganda. My wife and kids are safer than most Americans who have no arms for protection.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris A right is properly defined as something one is able to do absent from interference from anyone else or not taken from anyone else.
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By William Dykeman its an idea ideas dont exist
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Ideas fully exist.
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By William Dykeman in your head, so what?
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By Kirby Liberty Harris In our heads they still exist.
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By William Dykeman which head? how infected are you?
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By Kirby Liberty Harris In many heads. Its a cure to the disease you have.
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By William Dykeman intelligence is now a disease to you?
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By Kirby Liberty Harris No, great ideas are a cure to the disease of bad ideas.
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By William Dykeman ideas are bullet proof and history will proove that these iseas are inevitable
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Yeah, history will prove the ideas I share are true and bullet proof.
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By William Dykeman okay fair enough, my money is on the peoples republic
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I am all for a people's democratically elected republic, THOUGH you by your statements definitely are not.
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By William Dykeman norway is the most democratic nation on earth, i'd be happy with a government like norways, i could live with that
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By James Warren Willy who told you you were intelligent? i would get my money back if i was you
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By William Dykeman at one time i had an iq of 153
but that was BEFORE THE accident
now its about 135
so about 100 iq points i have on you
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Norway is NOT the most democratic nation on earth AND its not really socialist. Its a hybrid of socialism and capitalism, similar to the US>
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By William Dykeman Norway is absolutely the most democratic nation on earth followed by Finland https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018/02/nordic-countries-top-democratic-rankings-2017/
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By William Dykeman it is a hybrid i like that i never in my life thought pure socialism was practical or even desirable
the hybrid of nordic social democracy was always what i felt was ideal
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Again, nope. Nice opinion though.
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By William Dykeman again yep
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By Kirby Liberty Harris you are entitled to your opinion.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris LOLOLOLOL. Thanks for making me laugh.
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By William Dykeman all opinions are not created equal
my opinions are based on logic and fact
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By William Dykeman its how i made a fortune, its the one thing i am good at
better than a black belt or a 45 automatic
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By William Dykeman smile when you say that
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