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Trump impeached: if Senate acquits him, does it hurt his reelection prospects?

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Trump will very likely survive the Senate trial, but Democrats hope to win the PR battle. Assuming acquittal, will this help or hurt his reelection prospects?
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By Kirby Liberty Harris He won't be removed, and this will cause him to get re-elected by the same margins.
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By Vincent D'Emidio He will be CRUSHED by us REAL Americans, trust me on this one! Evangelical CLOWNS will get no help from Independents this time...in fact, those so-called "christians" are being LAUGHED at right now!
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By William Dykeman actually we are the majority now this is our country this was their last gasp
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By Vincent D'Emidio I agree. Black folks won't vote for Republicans, Latins won't either. Due to the growing prejudices exhibited by Trump-ettes, Orientals won't vote for them!

As for White folks, MANY of them are Liberated and won't vote for Republicans. So, who's left? Those bible-thumping LOWLIFES? That's about all!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I disagree with all you just said. There are many who are not bible thumping lowlifes who will hold their noses and vote for him, so not to get what they fear is worse than him.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Many evangelicals who don't want to force their views on others will vote for him to not get socialism, but don't like him. It is corrupt leaders of evangelicalism that support him, not the average evangelical Joe.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris You are not the majority. You are part of one of the two radical squeaky wheel minorities who control the two parties, so the normal people, slightly right and slightly left of center, have to vote for your cult leaders. We outnumber you.
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By Vincent D'Emidio "There are many who are not bible thumping lowlifes who will...vote for him"

Yeah, they're called R-A-C-I-S-T-S!
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By Vincent D'Emidio "It is corrupt leaders of evangelicalism that support him, not the average evangelical Joe"

You are right...and wrong! Most of the Evangelical leaders have SOLD their SOULS, so they are in no position to lecture the rest of us EVER AGAIN! As for the average evangelical, I'm not saying that they are evil, but they will vote for him...simply because they really don't understand what Socialism really is!

Those Democratic candidates are not Socialists at all...with the exception of Bernie. If I thought that the Democrats were really Socialists, I would've registered as a Democrat, instead of as a Socialist. Unlike Socialists, the Democrats are jellyfish! They proved that when they GAVE IN to the Republicans in 1981, when all the "Archie Bunkers" in this country voted for Reagan. The Democrats were AFRAID of them, while we Socialists just SPIT in their EYE!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris No it is not because they are racists. Yes racists vote for him, but most of them are atheists and pagans.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I disagree, many do know exactly what socialism is, especially since there are various types of socialism. Liberal Dan on here, agrees with anarchists, with the ludicrous idea that all government is socialism.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Some of what Trump wants is socialism in my opinion. Also, there are other issues they vote against the Dems for.
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By Vincent D'Emidio "Yes racists vote for him, but most of them are atheists and pagans"

They may very well be "pagans", but they BELIEVE that they are Christians, and that makes them even more dangerous!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris No, I mean they identify as pagans. And don't think they are Christians at all. You do have a minority group that claim to be Christians that are racists, but are NOT real Christians.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris There are two real Americas and two fakes. The fakes are puppet masters and their cult like followers. They run the two parties. Then there are the conservative and liberal real Americans, who want the government to leave them alone, except on issues they want forced on everyone.
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By Vincent D'Emidio Why do any imbeciles wanna "force" their values on us? I won't put up with it, and most liberated folks won't either! They will ANNIHILATE Republicans before that happens!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Some of the 'liberated' folks want to push their values on 'us'. We won't put up with either side 'pushing their values' on us.
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By Vincent D'Emidio What "values" do I wanna impose on you? For example, I don't wanna force you or anybody else to smoke Herb. However, I wanna smoke it, and I don't want those people trying to STOP me...that will lead to WAR!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris One, take my money to pay for others who should work themselves. Force me to give up my self defense weapons..try and do that and there will be war. They are trying to confiscate them in Virginia, but we are rising up.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris IN VA, they are trying to pass laws that make you give up your guns or be a felon. This violates the 2nd amendment and definitely the VA Constitution, which is more strongly worded than the US Constitution.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris And it violates the Constitution's no Post Facto laws aka grandfather laws. The VA national guard says they will NOT enforce this. Almost every county and city has said they will NOT enforce this law. One sheriff said he will deputize almost all citizens to stop it.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Some counties, including mine, have a police and sheriffs department. So we could have the sheriff and the police department shooting at each other to over it. The police departments are more liberal than the sheriffs.
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By William Dykeman the atf and the national gaurd can enforce this then under martial law
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By William Dykeman if the supreme court says a law is constitutional it is not you you are no expert, consult the supremacy clause, also i have seen this before with smoking in calif at first smoking ban in bars and cafes were totally ignored as time went on fines were increased examples were made, i would err on the side of cuation but you are fightng a losing battle the 1934 fire arms act stands and is enforced, al you can do is whine and britch
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By Vincent D'Emidio "One, take my money to pay for others who should work themselves"

On that subject, I offer NO apologies...if you're wealthy! Since you are only middle-Class, that doesn't apply to you! That's one thing that I'll NEVER understand about you people. You aren't rich and yet, you wanna protect those Capitalist ANIMALS from being "molested" by APPROPRIATE taxation! Please tell me...WHY??? That makes no sense at all! Do you really believe that the Capitalist FILTH are concerned with your well-being? Don't make me laugh!

On the subject of guns, have you ever heard me l Crusade against them? Of course not. but, unlike the NRA (which is as opposed to marijuana use as it is to Atheism, or Socialism) who despise ANY common sense legislation, I believe that in a large city, like New York, there MUST be some controls. In the countryside, not so much. In New York, where the populace is already completely armed...if you officially legalize every gun owner for open-carry, you would unleash a MASSACRE, believe me! If everybody knew that they could shoot anybody they want...and GET AWAY WITH IT...there would be no stopping people from "settling", ah, "scores"! Do you really wanna unleash a curse like that on the people?
Besides which man, you must know...EVERYBODY KNOWS...some people who must NEVER have a gun, because they cannot control themselves.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris The Virginia National guard says they will not enforce this. And IF Trump, really is pro 2A, then he will not let the ATF enforce it. Let the ATF or other national guard come in against almost all the police and citizens armed to the teeth.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris And Willie, I thought you were against door to door confiscation.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris The Court has not heard this law, it hasn't even been passed yet. I am referring to a law that the GOV wants to pass. Even many liberals are against it. This is nothing like restaurant smoking ban. This will end in bloodshed if passed and tried.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I could care less about the rich. I care about what is right. And you have no right to other people's money. And it takes from me as well. I am not talking about commonsense regulation. This is confiscation state wide. It will end in blood.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris But you can't deny people their right to arms, because they live in a city or you think they can't control themselves. No one said they could shoot who they want. We said own and open carry.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Anyone tries and takes my AR or 9 mm or any other gun I own will experience them first hand.
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By William Dykeman sure i can because there is no right to bear arms its a fantasy and a dangerous one at that rights are made up they dont exist
you say you have a right to a gun i say evetyone has a right to health care and food
natura law is made up but i would argume the priciples osf sociasim exist in our dna they are inevitable and they are logical
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By William Dykeman its been nice know ing you remember ruby ridge/ or waco? lol i am going to love the next ten years if i mage to live this one through.. i dont really care but remember my words i was righ this nation is gomng left and you might not lose your guns but you will hav to hav them licensed and registered its gong to be federal law
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By Vincent D'Emidio Oh, I see...like the NRA, you believe that a "good guy with a gun trumps a bad guy with a gun"! If only it was so easy, eh? I come from New York (the TOUGH part), and I'll tell you that people WILL "settle scores" and other arguments with guns. If you don't believe that, then you are naive!

So, you actually believe that "open carry" will lead to "peace", huh? Perhaps you should talk to people who aren't blinded by so-called "conservative" beliefs, you might learn a different view.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Natural rights are not made up. We are born with them from nature. The right to bear arms comes from the natural right to self defense which comes from our right to live.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Healthcare is not a natural right, because a natural right by definition is something you have the natural right to have without taking it from another.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris This nation is not going left, but libertarian, corps and gov leave us alone. Guns will never go away.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Vince I am not blinded by conservative beliefs. Those are Founders beliefs aka classic liberals. They were pro gun and anti-forcing religion and were pro-weed.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Vince, the good guy with a gun was just proven again this past Sunday. A nut went to shoot up a church and was shoot to death by 10 armed good guys with guns sitting in the church.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Yeah, Ruby Ridge where they murdered a baby and it's mother while in her arms.
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By Vincent D'Emidio In this particular instance, it did work, thank God. But, there are MANY instances where it doesn't work that way. I'm not opposed to self-defense, and I own a gun myself, but I don't want some angry, murderous dude having easy access to a firearm, just to show what a "man" he is. that leads others to
'prove" what "men" they are by going up to their apartment, and coming back downstairs with another gun! That leads to chaos. And, please don't try to tell me that situations like that are rare, I've seen them PERSONALLY over 100 times!

The "Founders" may have been Libertarian folks, but today's Republicans aren't like that at all. They are all for IMPOSING their "religious" beliefs on others...and they still believe in that Prohibition baloney!
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By Kirby Liberty Harris OK, you have gun and I have quite a few, so how do you suggest keeping it from the 'angry, murderous dude' without violating yours and my right (the non-murderous dudes) to own them? And most Evangelicals are not for prohibition.
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By Vincent D'Emidio Well, since I'm not a gun-graber, I have no answer for that. The only thing I know is that stuff like that DOES happen, forget about what the NRA says. In the past, I had nothing against NRA people, but larely, in order to curry favor with bible-bangers (yes, I MEAN "evangelical trying-to-be christians"), they've gone on a Social issues crusade, just like the Republican Party does.

They hate atheists, Herb-smokers, Muslims, Slocialists and Gay folks. Now, as an intelligent man, tell me what all of those "issues" have to do with gun ownership? Now, if you answer the question, please don't say that those issues are relevant, or otherwise apologize. You know, and I know, that those issues are not NRA concerns, but rather the concerns of Evangelical know-nothings.
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By William Dykeman well i am a gun grabber i want your guns one way or another i want there to be far less guns in the USA ideally
gun laws and gun ownership say like the uk where guns can only be possed for caused and the 2nd amdnemtn abolished i sincerely beleive our society would be frreer and safer if we were far less armed thats the honest truth, it is what it is
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I think you are painting to broad of a brush. From what I see most evangelicals do NOT hate atheists, Herb-smokers, Muslims, Socialists and Gay folks. Now most do have an issue with socialism, but they don't hate Joe socialist.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris I don't know anything about the NRA and any social crusade to win evangelicals. And I am no fan of the NRA, since I think the NRA has sold gun owners out for decades.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Willie, well i know you are a gun grabber and want our guns in one way or another, but you and your buddies try and take it and most military vets, most cops and almost all gun owners will take you out. ONLY tyrants want to disarm the populace.
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By Kirby Liberty Harris We left England for a reason. If you abolish the 2nd amendment, then you will start a war that would end your side. If you ban it there would be nothing to stop the government from oppressing the people. RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE
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By Kirby Liberty Harris Willie, ALL human's rights are important. We (the people) RAGE AGAINST (Your) MACHINE!!!! Tyrants will fall, the man will fall at the hands of the people. Viva la revoluciĆ³n !!
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By William Dykeman the future is unwritten
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