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Topic: Afghan War

As Trump admin negotiates Afghan peace w/Taliban, some see defeat. Your view?

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Discussion started by Tok Staff:
Unable to beat the Taliban completely, Trump aims to make a deal and withdraw troops with the former bitter enemy. Peace or victory?
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By Wallace Freeman What are the objectives in being there? Show me those and I'll tell you whether or not they've been achieved.
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By William Dykeman we were going to defeat al queda were we not? i think we did that
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By Wallace Freeman If that was the goal we may have succeeded. If nothing else we got the members of Al Queda to change their affiliation to Isis or whatever group shares their goals.
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By William Dykeman the simple fact is we are never gong to get out of this now
we were caught in a trap that will now slowly bleed us out
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By Wallace Freeman The race of attrition goes to the first side to draw unacceptable losses from the other.
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By William Dykeman we will never get out of this thing
they are going to bleed us
like a gutted pig
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By Wallace Freeman Only if we let them.
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By William Dykeman we already have
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By Wallace Freeman I haven't heard anyone yet label our losses in Afghanistan as unacceptable though I agree they could become unacceptable without focused attention to the mission.
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By William Dykeman what sort of monsters do you crawl around with?
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By William Dykeman they have already destroyed our culture
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By Wallace Freeman Right now, I'm responding to you.
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By Wallace Freeman Walmart and Amazon have never been better.
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By William Dykeman nationalize both exactly because of how "sucessfull" they are
they are too successful and i mean that
they are monopolies and monopolies make slaves of us all
nationalize them or break them up
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By William Dykeman battle not with monsters
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By Wallace Freeman The destruction of success is why socialism inevitably produces poverty and devastation. Socialism is the subsidization of failure.
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By William Dykeman norway and china both places about half the economy is state run and they are both at the top in performance
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By William Dykeman all societies all societies have favored elites
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By Wallace Freeman All the more reason not to give them a powerful government to wield as a tool of coercion. Let a naturally created meritocracy of productivity decide who are the elite.
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By William Dykeman you dont give them power of you
they are a power over you
you are far less important than you think
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By Wallace Freeman Would you restate that in English?
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By William Dykeman liberte egalite fraternite Entendez-vous, dans les campagnes

Mugir ces féroces soldats?

Ils viennent jusque dans nos bras

Égorger nos fils, nos compagnes.

Aux armes, citoyens!

Formez vos bataillons,

Marchons, marchons!

Qu’un sang impur

Abreuve nos sillons.

Amour sacré de la Patrie
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By Wallace Freeman That was an inspiration for Thomas Jefferson's vision of minimalist government.
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By William Dykeman he admired the french the jacobins were far from minarchists they set up a strong central government and their philosophy eventually lead to frances version of liberal socalism which i have always liked
it my cultural paradigm
as oposed to yours
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By Wallace Freeman They were his inspiration for the maintenance of the spirit of rebellion against government because government is crime. “. . . The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere.”

― Thomas Jefferson
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By William Dykeman he owned slaves he was a criminal, this is a good example why we need government to arrest child rapists like jefferson
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By William Dykeman Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country. Franklin D. Roosevelt
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By William Dykeman Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country. Franklin D. Roosevelt
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By William Dykeman Let us never forget that government is ourselves and not an alien power over us. The ultimate rulers of our democracy are not a President and senators and congressmen and government officials, but the voters of this country. Franklin D. Roosevelt
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By Wallace Freeman Which is why government agents are always trying to disarm the people.
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By Wallace Freeman Government tries to create slaves of everyone.
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By William Dykeman o thats easy, people are basically chidren they are not capable of owning guns they get drunk and shot their wives and kids, they disarm them to protect them from themselves
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By William Dykeman that a silly false hood slavery was abolished by government, without gvernment the strong would enslave the weak look at history without govrnment 99% of the poplation were serfs government was instituted to protect freedom without government only a very few are free, what you said is the opposite of the truth just look at history